_Claire_ said: talonbone said: willow announced she has bulletproof and lynchproof. i recall denja (i think) say that it was 1 shot, which was not stated by willow. also i dont understand what you mean by your second sentence Okay... so willow has so many abilities.. .... @Kaitou do we get an answer as to why Izaya can use his ability even tho I have used my world roleblock? .... Publicly. Do you know nothing of yourself, can't tell if forced dumb-play :S |
grrr said: Lol, prophecy.Claire always lies nya. Sometimes you trust claire and later regret it nya. I remember losing a game becasue I trusted claire nya. The sooner we get rid of claire the better nya. She lies about her abilities and then she kills you nya. You just want to see the world burn, nya. xD sorry can't help it nya (Yeah I forgot to nya :P )_Claire_ said: Why Zombie especially?aa-dono said: I take it back. Seems risky for him to do this since if willow ended up telling the truth, he'll be lynch the next day. @_Claire_ who besides willow/snake do you find suspicious? @Lamby I don't really get the zombie thing. Could you explain? Is this the qtn? I said Zombie. I want to lynch Zombie this day phase, to be honest. And I agree that I dont think both greenwillow/shadowsnake are town. One of them is definitely lying (I dont know gut feeling). I won't be surprised if one of them is SK. Especially the bulletproof one. hlanden said: Can't help but find this opportunistic.Cancel vote: ShadowSnake777 Vote lynch: Claire I think it is reasonable enough to keep snake alive for now, if his role is the role he claimed, meanwhile Claire is just throwing out accusations left and right (atleast that's how I see it) without any actual reason (and no, I don't see claiming without pressure a reson, especially if it stated that you will show as guilty, because If you claim it after then investigate you it's pretty much over, while this is pressure itself, so yea, I hope you get my point). She is either really good at this, or scummy, but since I'm not very good at this I read it as scummy. 1. Accusation (besides TPR) that I see from her is on Zombie. Aren't you throwing accusation without actual reason as well? reiynii said: Why did you want to focus on TPR so much nya?Wait, why is Claire getting voted? Was someone not keeping up with the Survivor predicament? |
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Kaitou said: talonbone said: youre not penalised are you? o.o also @kaitou does my consectuive posting at the top of thi page and the bottom of last page count as spamming? i tried to keep my posts to a minimum and i dont wanna get penalised for multiple consecutive posts. i was just catching up Multiple posts are fine. You can even post 100 posts consecutively but you know, that wouldn't be considerate to the players, haha. Mmmmmm my post streaks whether constructive or for personal bookmarks and such is pretty disgusting, I wonder if I should aim for 100 in a short period of time.... sounds like quite an achievement. |
Lamby said: _Claire_ said: o.o But I saw willow having 6 votes and Shadow having 6 votes. I need to admit I haven't read the thread entirely. And yes I asked the host and he said if they used "shots" they couldn't be used again. I was thinking of not using it but then if there was a converting ability I had just successfully blocked their attempt to convert someone.. Oh well. It says Evil and Good. Greenwillow is neutral, probably? @Bold: Aahahahaha.... you wut m8? Also..... ummmmmm, "It says Evil and good." Yeah, it sure does, that's public information hun~ If you hold said role, you should see the specific wording behind the ability itself, do you not know roughly how your own shit works? I play however I want it to be, no matter how stupid. So? |
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_Claire_ said: Impression that I should not roleclaim and go off sleep and then wake up getting lynched without using my world-roleblock? Never! D: it was the most fun thing ever and I hope town/mafia alike was confused about it upupu~ Oh btw guys.... Have I ever said I am town? Ahhyyeeee, straight from the mouth of Claire themselves. Any particular reason for this? or.... |
_Claire_ said: Oh no, I haven't said my alignment is town.. Never. Vote lynch: Zombie something something Rubbing it in, k. Also is that a legit vote? Could have just typed Zombie. |
_Claire_ said: I am feeling uncomfortable lynching someone who is active at the moment and we have no lead because of my ability night 1 and no lynch day 1. I am thinking of killing the inactive to make the PoE smaller and smaller. I can see from the way we are doing stuffs that we are not going much anywhere with no vote analysis to be done, even though I have formed some kind of thinking in my brain as to what is probably who. Also looking at the way it is, it would be hard to find replacement and from the name... greenwillow Nelsonma11355 Reiynii Shinichi-kun Mkim aa-dono Shadowsnake777 Karote Rinto-kun NodokaLaMei Lamby ZombieWolf2508 Zymf Tsukikoxchan DenjaX Lord_Sithis grrr Mishukax talonbone magicalofmagic Holocaster coromandel hlanden SightlessReality Eruza-chan (looking for replacement) claire_ 11 people who have barely posted. Or probably more, I am probably being lenient here. Also inclined that most people who are active are probably town. In this large setup, if I were mafia I would stay low as long as possible because town has more chance hitting the town than not. Kinda sad that I used my ability last night or I could use some bloodshed to look upon, but I really wanted to avoid conversion (and I am 99% sure he would do it night 1, except except that he was so lucky to do it later on......) Is anyone opposed to the idea of lynching the inactives? Shooting in the dark, after the terrible results of 2 phases producing next to nothing, seems a bit early. Is there literally nothing/no-one you find lynch worthy within 20pages or so? |
SightlessReality said: talonbone said: you.. i wanna hear some of your thoughts. all your posts up to this point have been absolute pointless fluff. i feel youre just coasting under radar. lemme in that beatiful brain of yours Inside my brain huh. You got it.  Kind of amusing, not a surprising response though. |
SightlessReality said: But as a genuine piece of information going through my head. " I am a female that fears no one." K Not only fluff flavour of little value, but it comes masked too. |
_Claire_ said: greenwillow said: 1)That's the point 2) Nah, claiming survivor was part of lighting discussion. I hate silent play. I kinda figured that not everyone would trust it right away. Yes, they could, but they would get a serious blow if that person is killed. 3)If Snakey's ability is plus to the town then I don't see how is that neutral while my 1st is something what can be useful for either faction if used correctly, 2nd - has no use to anyone cuz it's just whatever messages, 3rd is useful only to me so that I wouldn't die that quickly. nya. Are you really lynch proof and bullet proof? Like, both of them? Blind shooting and TPR prodding. Priorities sorted. |
Lord_Sithis said: greenwillow said: 1. Still kind of broken. Whoever gets survivor wins on day 1, unless the town/mafia go out of their way to kill them.1)That's the point 2) Nah, claiming survivor was part of lighting discussion. I hate silent play. I kinda figured that not everyone would trust it right away. Yes, they could, but they would get a serious blow if that person is killed. 3)If Snakey's ability is plus to the town then I don't see how is that neutral while my 1st is something what can be useful for either faction if used correctly, 2nd - has no use to anyone cuz it's just whatever messages, 3rd is useful only to me so that I wouldn't die that quickly. nya. 2. Yes, but by claiming survivor a mafia can gain the trust of the town. "Why should we kill them if they're not a threat?" 3. Revival is a plus to the town if Snake is town. If he's mafia we're fucked. I don't really suspect you anymore since you don't sound scummy. But I think people got a little bit too carried away with claiming in this game. Do you read stuff? Why weigh in on ifs that have already been stated to not be the case. |
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greenwillow said: DenjaX said: I confirmed it with host that messages and my protections is to not be roleblocked because messages are meant for day phase and protection is passive ability.Maybe the reason why greenwillow managed to use their ability is because he's Third Party. But Town(Good) and Mafia(Evil) got their abilities blocked. Nya K, so it does resolve as a day action then. Pike must have been dealing with a straight-up global then. Would appreciate a response to my earlier mention if you haven't done so between getting back and now. |
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Mishukax said: _Claire_ said: Is anyone opposed to the idea of lynching the inactives? I'd usually disagree with that, but you know what? Vote lynch: Tsukikoxchan @Tsukikoxchan get in here @Nelsonma11355 have you read at least a little bit of the thread? Also Shadow is being hella confusing, it's unpleasant, so I'll lay off the case What are you doing, son? or at the very least, what do you believe you're doing? Also with the information publicly provided thus far, that shouldn't the be only or initial reason to back off from them. |
Lord_Sithis said: @Shadowsnake777 So you're Izayoi Sakuya? And your abilities are revival and vote manipulation? Care to explain how those abilities relate to Sakuya? Vote manipulation? What does that have to do with Sakuya? And "rewinding a player's life to their original state"? I can think of two things right now: 1. The host didn't research enough 2. You didn't research enough And why is that? Because Sakuya CAN'T reverse time, so that ability makes no sense. Man, if your claim is fake, I expected more from a fellow Touhou fan... In any case, care to explain? Flavour is simply that, the host(s) are not some kind of all knowing being..... also note is was stated that flavour wont hold 100% true to the character itself for balancing reasons. A waste of time chocking on minor specifics that might not hold water due to personal interests concerning characters/fandom etc. |
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Lamby said: Lord_Sithis said: @Shadowsnake777 So you're Izayoi Sakuya? And your abilities are revival and vote manipulation? Care to explain how those abilities relate to Sakuya? Vote manipulation? What does that have to do with Sakuya? And "rewinding a player's life to their original state"? I can think of two things right now: 1. The host didn't research enough 2. You didn't research enough And why is that? Because Sakuya CAN'T reverse time, so that ability makes no sense. Man, if your claim is fake, I expected more from a fellow Touhou fan... In any case, care to explain? Flavour is simply that, the host(s) are not some kind of all knowing being..... also note is was stated that flavour wont hold 100% true to the character itself for balancing reasons. A waste of time chocking on minor specifics that might not hold water due to personal interests concerning characters/fandom etc. Choking* or something like that. |
Zymf said: _Claire_ said: Not i this game. As I've said, just knowing someones role actually means a whole lot since we can track who they target at night!Flavour claim does not prove anything. Everyone can be town or not, character only indicates possible ability. talonbone said: Means absolutely NOTHING as long as she says she isn't gonna help town at all! THAT'S why I'm pressuring her -.- thank you! why is everyone calling her useless, this ability seems like a complete gamechanger. i just wonder who it will benefit greenwillow said: With a clear anti-town mentality like that, I'm not even seeing it as a "wasted lynch" to lynch you anymore -.-What part of being neutral u don't understand? Like I said before, my information ability could be helpful for town and mafia, depending on who is gonna buy it, so I dunno if it is ok to sell it once I get the info. nya And apparently the ]Mafiascum wikia seems to agree with me, unlike everyone else in this game... Wikia said: In practice it's worth somewhat less than a Mafia Goon – the existence of the role normally makes the game more favourable to the Mafia (and other anti-town factions) than it would be otherwise. Whether a Survivor is a burden to the Town is up to the Survivor's mentality. The Survivor can't be too much of a help to the Town or else they will get killed at Night; they can't be too much of a burden to Town or they will get lynched for sanity's sake. Thus, playing as Survivor requires the player to pace themselves. One nasty strategy at early LyLo as Survivor is to vote a Townie immediately and let the scum perform an extended quickhammer for the win. The existence of this strategy means that the presence of a Survivor means that LyLo comes a day early, and thus that killing them is not a mislynch and typically good for the town. As such, Towns typically act as though Survivors were anti-town, and will kill them if their role is discovered. In particular, claiming Survivor before LyLo is a bad idea. Doesn't seem to be applying pressure at all given what you know of other players stance on them atm. Also note using your own perspective of "anti-town" and what applies due to the stage of the game and how limited their choices are..... you're just being exceptionally selective when it comes to them lol. The only thing that really seems to match up from the quote is that some people get a little riled up about Surv claims in the earlier stages of the game, which is kind of a 50/50 bet in the first place. I doubt most would give her the light of day leaving the claim that late within this particular set-up. |
talonbone said: claire, i agree. id rather accidentally kill an inactive townie with a strong power than to accidentally kill an active townie @magicalofmagic [b]Vote Lynch Magicofmagic Damn, after all that you cave in and leave some silly looking vote :S |
Zymf said: Kaitou said: Fine, you know what? Idc.Zymf (4) - coromandel, reyinii, Lamby, Holocaster Ability 1: I can protect anyone from getting killed at night, except myself. Ability 2: Gonna keep this one a secret for now... I'll be sorta busy the next 2 days, so don't expect to much from me. K? I don't care what your character holds, it's more in what you're doing/not doing and for which reasons. |
_Claire_ said: I think I know what greenwillow is trying to do. I want to move on from these two supposedly 3rd party roles and focus on the rest of the members. So far we have not actually discussed anything else beside those two roles majorly. I am still of opinion we should get the inactive, and if mafia has any decency they should kill the inactive too because playing with an inactive annoys me so much to no end. Also, having so many inactives, it is easy for scum to manipulate our thoughts and votes. Some have done enough to form rough opinions by now kiddo~ You want to vote for inactives koz it's easy for scum to manipulate such votes? |
talonbone said: Shadowsnake777 said: i feel liek you jsut made a huge mistake lol. if i was someone who could 'evolve' and i read you had the power to bring me back to square 1. id definitely kill you :PAlright i'm home now Dude I don't make the abilities XD And yes, I know she can't reverse time lol! XD Also when I messaged I got a reply on what my third ability actually is. It's NOT revival. It actually brings a player back to their original state. What i have been told is that they can evolve. But that's all i know They can go ahead and try die if they want. |
_Claire_ said: Karote said: You don't even try pressuring them, just blank vote for someone who hasn't entered the game yet. If we lynched someone like that, 0 info and possibility of mafia manipulating the lynch to lead to that. I don't think you analysed any of other players other than 3rd party, why jump on inactive, lmao Let me see your last vote... Hey guys this guy looks scummy! >Vote Why do you think this is much more better than voting for an inactive? And how if the inactive turns out to be scum? Also you think you want to lynch all the actives first, is it? That's the only right thing to do at the moment - vote for someone you find suspicious. Everyone should do that. Inactives are either replaced or modkilled after a while, so why waste a lynch on them? And if it's someone like magical who hasn't posted at all, then lynching her will not give us any useful information to work with. Because she's never interacted with anyone. + inactives generally don't respond, so we're more likely going to mislynch if we're focusing on them. If you have no idea who to vote for, then it's better to go for lurkers instead of inactives. |
Shinichi-Kun said: Mishukax said: Mmh that'd make him a target too, in fact. The same way mafia would remove innocent child to get rid of a confirmed town. still dont think mafia would ever hit someone whois confirmed, too many outside sources that could get in the way like protection or watchers. This all i got for now i need sleep shrug lol @kaitou why u gotta host the game during the week of the new wow expac i wanna get into this game so i can help town win >3> but i wanna play wow at the same time decisions decisions Why are you even here...... wait, are you even here? Get the fuhk in the game, meng. |
Lord_Sithis said: Shadowsnake777 said: So, Kaitou-san didn't research enough and assumed that since Sakuya can manipulate time she can reverse it. OK, possible.Alright i'm home now Dude I don't make the abilities XD And yes, I know she can't reverse time lol! XD Also when I messaged I got a reply on what my third ability actually is. It's NOT revival. It actually brings a player back to their original state. What i have been told is that they can evolve. But that's all i know So players can evolve? Now that's interesting. Btw, funny unrelated thing: I was just playing EoSD Stage 5, and... you know, Sakuya :) uuugghhhh, it continues. |
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Zymf said: +1DenjaX said: Why should we waste a revive on a survivor >.>How about this? we lynch greenwillow today and if willow is survivor, Shadowsnake should revive her? I'd much rather lynch a player who claims vigilante but might actually by just another killing role (aka Claire) and then revive that player. - though Claire is not vig - (and most probably not town) reiynii said: This post gave me a town-vibe.Zymf said: It should've come out of his own mouth not yours. If that was what went through his mind reading willow's role claim post, he would've explained it the many times I and everyone else asked.He also didn't have any reason to counterclaim though. Remember, he is 3rd party, so why would he risk his own life just to counterclaim which is only beneficial to town? Again I'm sorry if he did and I didn't see it. If so, can someone refer me? Shadowsnake777 said: @Kaitou not vanilla?My ability returns them to their original state reiynii said: Don't quite like this post. Why the need to defend a TPR role?greenwillow said: I have been trying to save you the entire time, but nobody is listening to me. The reason I wrote the post you are replying to is so that people know just because you didn't tell us your abilities, doesn't mean you don't have any.Ehh, I tried to explain.. Ok look: 1) Each night I can choose to get random information about what happened during the night AND I can put that information for a sale. There are few more thingies that I want to confirm with host tho, about how it works, but I'll do that later. 2) Before each day (except 1st) I must to write up some annoying message just for annoying purpouses :| (this ability doesn't make sence to me lol) 3) I have bulletproof and lynchproof abilities. So sweeties you can waste lynches and kills on me multiple times ;) nya. |
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talonbone said: Karote said: because claire has a point. id rather get rid of the useless inactives than kill off the actives and be stuck with silence late game. oh and explain how im supposed to pressure someone whos not here? thats the reason i tagged her, to get her attention and maybe remind her shes in the middle of a game. and ive made my up to date analysis on my people of interest in this post. maybe you missed it. youve just joined the list buddy, welcomeYou don't even try pressuring them, just blank vote for someone who hasn't entered the game yet. If we lynched someone like that, 0 info and possibility of mafia manipulating the lynch to lead to that. I don't think you analysed any of other players other than 3rd party, why jump on inactive, lmao There are people who aren't in-active, but still look pretty bad or have yet to make themselves of relevant use. Easily more worthy of hugging rope with their necks. |
aa-dono said: Did everyone ignore this claim? Zymf said: Fine, you know what? Idc. Ability 1: I can protect anyone from getting killed at night, except myself. Ability 2: Gonna keep this one a secret for now... I'll be sorta busy the next 2 days, so don't expect to much from me. Nope. I host bastard games. Shown intentions and priorities speak louder than half-assed claims. |
aa-dono said: Thoughts before I backread properly. - Claire claimed Pike. (which I highly doubt is Town. Possible TPR - ignore for now) - Claire wants to vote for inactives > voted Zombie (might not post much, but def. NOT inactive) - Talon's #904 seems incredibly on-the-fence not to mention voting magical who hasn't been online for a week(?) to get attention is weird. Seems like an easy vote. He sounds sheepish (but I played in one game with him before - Vocaloid - and he sounds sheepish as well. I forgot his alignment. Was he town? @_Claire_ @Shinichi-Kun ) - @Shinichi-Kun you signed up. Don't complain >,> - Karote asks questions that I like (but I have never been able to read this guy so... and he doesn't feel like mafia the last time he was mafia so not gonna townread him yet) - Zymf claimed protective role. Not gonna lynch him. (I get why he wanted to vote for willow, but @Zymf : the only way you can have willow on town's side is by aiming towards win, which is getting rid of mafia, not being distracted by TPR. And if we get mafia lynched, they will need survivor on their side, but survivor (if I don't get this wrong) will side with majority (the winners) so let mafia kill her. We can lynch her if no one seems a better choice. - Don't get a good vibe from Holo-san. Change Vote Lynch talonbone 1. Why do you believe willow in every aspect? 2. How come you believe willow and found Snake to be out of suspicion radar? 3. Could you explain why did you get a townvibe out of Claire's claim? 4. So you found Zymf to be scummy for relentlessly chasing after willow. Which part of his post before that looks town to you? now back to backreading. Hmmmm gl with the back-reading, I may have shit all over the later page or two. On note of Talon, most of what they've said is in the right place, only stupid looking end of it is their vote later down the track and the reasons behind it being bad. He was town in that game I believe. (Was Mafia for that one and he wasn't) |
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_Claire_ said: Also noted that you are merely commenting yet does not commit :s perfect play by.. town. Check negatives provided throughout the game, where the votes lay, when and why. Might want to check the meaning of some of those words you're using, that is if you're not just being sassy and only reading what you want. |
coromandel said: @_Claire_ I'm not sure why you want to go for inactives when we're already at 1000+ posts - surely there's someone you're suspecting by now, at least a little bit? Do you? Do you have any idea who you are suspecting now after 1000 posts? And I thought I had already told you guys what my alignment was.. Geh. Lamby said: _Claire_ said: Also noted that you are merely commenting yet does not commit :s perfect play by.. town. Check negatives provided throughout the game, where the votes lay, when and why. Might want to check the meaning of some of those words you're using, that is if you're not just being sassy and only reading what you want. Haaai~ |
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Lamby said: _Claire_ said: I think I know what greenwillow is trying to do. I want to move on from these two supposedly 3rd party roles and focus on the rest of the members. So far we have not actually discussed anything else beside those two roles majorly. I am still of opinion we should get the inactive, and if mafia has any decency they should kill the inactive too because playing with an inactive annoys me so much to no end. Also, having so many inactives, it is easy for scum to manipulate our thoughts and votes. Some have done enough to form rough opinions by now kiddo~ You want to vote for inactives koz it's easy for scum to manipulate such votes? Have you rough opinion, ol man? |
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_Claire_ said: Lamby said: Some have done enough to form rough opinions by now kiddo~ You want to vote for inactives koz it's easy for scum to manipulate such votes? Have you rough opinion, ol man? Provided you've read, you'd know the answer and at-least some of the specifics. |
aa-dono said: - Don't get a good vibe from Holo-san. I'd like to hear your reasoning behind this. |
aa-dono said: Thoughts before I backread properly. - Claire claimed Pike. (which I highly doubt is Town. Possible TPR - ignore for now) I was initially thinking Pike would be town, because their ability blocks and protects everyone at the same time. Why do you doubt Pike is town-aligned? The only way I can see scum profiting from this ability, is if they were really desperate to block the info roles. But in general, no nightkills is bad for the mafia, and I don't see why a TPR would have such an ability in the first place - unless they're maybe a Survivor (but we've already got enough of those floating around, it seems >.>) |
greenwillow said: What nooooo nya~ Izaya <3 nya~Rinto-kun said: Imagine how I feel when Izaya is the one I dislike most in DRRR =3=Still Izaya is shit and I'm gonna keep my vote on willow. Seijokes said: Getting a town-vibe out of this.So the potato thing is pretty much the night time annoying message that was mentioned earlier cool Everyone rb'd? Maybe this be the cause of no night kills? DenjaX said: Doubt it. Roleblocking everyone means investigative role doesn't get their results. The ability seems to benefit only Pike himself. That's why I think she's more likely TPR nya.Seijokes said: Perhaps or even bigger, no actions for whole night phase.Maybe this be the cause of no night kills? But I believe Pike Trickfoot is town. |
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aa-dono said: greenwillow said: What nooooo nya~ Izaya <3 nya~Imagine how I feel when Izaya is the one I dislike most in DRRR =3= Seijokes said: Getting a town-vibe out of this.So the potato thing is pretty much the night time annoying message that was mentioned earlier cool Everyone rb'd? Maybe this be the cause of no night kills? DenjaX said: Doubt it. Roleblocking everyone means investigative role doesn't get their results. The ability seems to benefit only Pike himself. That's why I think she's more likely TPR nya.Perhaps or even bigger, no actions for whole night phase. But I believe Pike Trickfoot is town. No offense intended but my ability does not go "oh the ability to roleblock town and mafia WAIT, If that town is vigilante you dont roleblock him! if he is an invest you dont roleblock him too! Literally it is written protection of town and mafia but town is not included it is just a spice" |
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reiynii said: I don't think he's scum for stubbornly going after willow. Like I mentioned in #974, I can follow that thought process. Just because we don't see eye-to-eye with him doesn't seem to be a reason to vote him. Not when I don't read those posts as scummy.aa-dono said: I beg to disagree. I believe his reason to make us vote for willow is quite scummy. It's just so that the town could waste a vote on a third party instead of focusing on our wincon and looking for mafia. He pretty much says it himself in #832.Anyway, as much as Zymf vote seems odd (in the sense that he should find scum intead of focusing on a TPR whose role is known), I read that as town frustrated over lack of info. If Zymf is mafia, I would assume he had better ways to vote for willow. Unless he's also TPR. I like this better but he was pressured yesterday I'm not sure what other info we could get from him. Since no one died, he can't prove the bring-back ability thingie. This also is part of the reason why we should be voting on Zymf not Shadow for now. We need to get more information out of him as he seems the most suspicious in my opinion.All he did was gave out his name at this point? What made you sure that role isn't scum? talonbone said: +1DenjaX said: it says protection against evil and good. that sounds like a survival role tbh, or at least TPRPerhaps or even bigger, no actions for whole night phase. But I believe Pike Trickfoot is town. talonbone said: That's true. Hmmreiynii said: if i was lynch proof i woudnt give af honestly. then i would just claim the next day like 'hah nice try dummies. im lynchproof :)'You're not at fault, since that's how the game goes. It's also true that she could've kept quite for a little bit more, but I reckon she had to go and didn't want to die without getting to defend herself so she claimed for safety measures. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm saying this on account of her last post being around 6 pages ago and her missing the final part of the previous day phase. Mishukax said: Why did you vote for him in the first place? D:talonbone said: he announces his character and all of a sudden hes innocent? makes no sense if you ask me I don't want to lynch Zymf so I'm satisfied with just his character so far. Should he roleclaim more than this? How many people will we ask to roleclaim? |
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_Claire_ said: Lol Claire. You can only be either Town or TPR. That ability makes no sense for mafia.Pfftt Alright I would say this outright. I thought it was obvious by how I said stuffs. I am TPR. Problem is I have to win with Town only. I cannot win with Mafia. I need to survive, but I have to survive with Town. I explicitly asked host this, and yes he said I am pro-town TPR. I can only win with Town. Now do you guys see how greenwillow/Shadow can be scum? They are probably TPR Survivor like me too, but who do they win with? Problem is I dont want to discuss about them too much atm, because one of them can be legit neutral which I dont know who. It sounds more like Willow is the neutral. Also I voted zombie simply because he jumped right on greenwillow even after she claimed. It was such a weird move for me at least. Hlanden also does not speak much unless it is about me and the two TPR and I get a sense he is tunneling me Idk why. Also keeps on saying I can be a liar liar liar but does not ask if the two tpr can be telling lies too? Why do you claim everything so fast? D: ^is what makes you suspicious you know~ |
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_Claire_ said: coromandel said: @_Claire_ I'm not sure why you want to go for inactives when we're already at 1000+ posts - surely there's someone you're suspecting by now, at least a little bit? Do you? Do you have any idea who you are suspecting now after 1000 posts? Yeah, I have some ideas on who could be scum. Players - who are tunneling on willow and shadowsnake only, and are only repeating the d1 discussion without looking further. - who have posted during day 2 but haven't placed a vote on anyone yet. Scummy, because they lack motiviation when it comes to scum hunting. - who want to go after inactives first. Inactives won't put up a fight, won't claim their role if they have votes on them. So I can see scum wanting to go after them because they're "easy lynches". - who've contradicted themselves, or made claims that don't sound genuine. Shadowsnake: He's contradicted himself and later said that he made a mistake with his explanation. + a few players who are familiar with Touhou said that his ability claims may be fake because they don't match his character all that well. Overall, I still think he's scummy. Pressuring him is useless because he's given us lots of information by now, the question is whether he was lying or not. So: no pressuring during the day, but I can see myself voting to lynch him at the end of the phase. Zymf: I don't think he's lying about his character, but that doesn't tell us about his alignment. His abilities clearly sound town-ish. But if I was a Doctor of some kind, I don't think I would claim so easily. I'd have claimed if it was absolutely necessary. That'd be a few hours before phase change, only if there was no other way to avoid a lynch. House is a Doctor (duh), but he's also a really selfish person. This is kind of nitpicky but I'd expect him to be able to protect himself as well. @Zymf you've voted for willow, and you've explained why you kept your vote on her. What I want to know is who else you suspect. I mean, you're not even suspecting her of lying, so I'd like to know who you think is actually scum. |
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_Claire_ said: Pfftt Alright I would say this outright. I thought it was obvious by how I said stuffs. I am TPR. Problem is I have to win with Town only. I cannot win with Mafia. I need to survive, but I have to survive with Town. I explicitly asked host this, and yes he said I am pro-town TPR. I can only win with Town. Now do you guys see how greenwillow/Shadow can be scum? They are probably TPR Survivor like me too, but who do they win with? Problem is I dont want to discuss about them too much atm, because one of them can be legit neutral which I dont know who. It sounds more like Willow is the neutral. Also I voted zombie simply because he jumped right on greenwillow even after she claimed. It was such a weird move for me at least. Hlanden also does not speak much unless it is about me and the two TPR and I get a sense he is tunneling me Idk why. Also keeps on saying I can be a liar liar liar but does not ask if the two tpr can be telling lies too? Mmmm dw, not really surprising in the end, knowing how wide a spread that ability had on it and well..... having submitted said character for the game, there is some edge in back-story and knowing how the host could have placed them accordingly. I guess this just means we're nearly certainly not dealing with multiple Mafia factions. |
aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: Lol Claire. You can only be either Town or TPR. That ability makes no sense for mafia.Pfftt Alright I would say this outright. I thought it was obvious by how I said stuffs. I am TPR. Problem is I have to win with Town only. I cannot win with Mafia. I need to survive, but I have to survive with Town. I explicitly asked host this, and yes he said I am pro-town TPR. I can only win with Town. Now do you guys see how greenwillow/Shadow can be scum? They are probably TPR Survivor like me too, but who do they win with? Problem is I dont want to discuss about them too much atm, because one of them can be legit neutral which I dont know who. It sounds more like Willow is the neutral. Also I voted zombie simply because he jumped right on greenwillow even after she claimed. It was such a weird move for me at least. Hlanden also does not speak much unless it is about me and the two TPR and I get a sense he is tunneling me Idk why. Also keeps on saying I can be a liar liar liar but does not ask if the two tpr can be telling lies too? Why do you claim everything so fast? D: ^is what makes you suspicious you know~ Not sure why you'd think it made no sense for Mafia. It points towards TPR or multi-factioned Mafia. |
_Claire_ said: Pfftt Alright I would say this outright. I thought it was obvious by how I said stuffs. I am TPR. Problem is I have to win with Town only. I cannot win with Mafia. I need to survive, but I have to survive with Town. I explicitly asked host this, and yes he said I am pro-town TPR. I can only win with Town. Now do you guys see how greenwillow/Shadow can be scum? They are probably TPR Survivor like me too, but who do they win with? You're suggesting that there may be 2 Survivors, one that wins with the town and the other one who wins with the mafia? And possibly one who is neutral and can win with both factions? Ugh, I find it really unlikely that 3/4 of the players who've claimed so far are all TPR, benign TPRs too. >.> And I refuse to believe that there are so many Survivors in this game. |
coromandel said: Yeah, I have some ideas on who could be scum. Players - who are tunneling on willow and shadowsnake only, and are only repeating the d1 discussion without looking further. - who have posted during day 2 but haven't placed a vote on anyone yet. Scummy, because they lack motiviation when it comes to scum hunting. - who want to go after inactives first. Inactives won't put up a fight, won't claim their role if they have votes on them. So I can see scum wanting to go after them because they're "easy lynches". - who've contradicted themselves, or made claims that don't sound genuine. Shadowsnake: He's contradicted himself and later said that he made a mistake with his explanation. + a few players who are familiar with Touhou said that his ability claims may be fake because they don't match his character all that well. Overall, I still think he's scummy. Pressuring him is useless because he's given us lots of information by now, the question is whether he was lying or not. So: no pressuring during the day, but I can see myself voting to lynch him at the end of the phase. Zymf: I don't think he's lying about his character, but that doesn't tell us about his alignment. His abilities clearly sound town-ish. But if I was a Doctor of some kind, I don't think I would claim so easily. I'd have claimed if it was absolutely necessary. That'd be a few hours before phase change, only if there was no other way to avoid a lynch. House is a Doctor (duh), but he's also a really selfish person. This is kind of nitpicky but I'd expect him to be able to protect himself as well. @Zymf you've voted for willow, and you've explained why you kept your vote on her. What I want to know is who else you suspect. I mean, you're not even suspecting her of lying, so I'd like to know who you think is actually scum. Mmmmm though I haven't watched the series myself. I would actually think there's no way they'd have the ability to protect themselves, given a quick read-up on a wiki site. Drug use? What he puts himself through for his own interest in what they can pull off etc Tbh I kind of expect a bit of self harm for greater benefit to others or some shit. But yeah... Doctor is one of those roles I'd even go out of my way to false-claim as town, their value and how much shit they can give scum is just of such value. Especially the timing and how openly it was done. |
talonbone said: Not sure why, but this just sounds wrong.claire, i agree. id rather accidentally kill an inactive townie with a strong power than to accidentally kill an active townie Agree hmm |
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